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Limiting Eminent Domain
Is this the same president Bush who benefited from the eminent domain seisure of private property for the building of a new baseball stadium for the Texas Ranger when he was a part owner of the team? Kind of hypocrytical, isn't it?
Also, does it take 1 year for the president to digest the meaning of the Supreme Court decision on eminent domain? he's even slower on the uptake than I thought.
I think Chief put it exactly right.
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WW,
here you go - I tried posting this link yesterday - it disappeared in some cyber black hole.
David,
Politicians are the lowest of life-forms; the most honest of them don't get elected higher than the town council. So I don't know how you're gonna get a good ol' regular American to (1) agree to take this job and then (2) get elected. I think the best way to deal with the politicians is to limit the influence they have over our lives, but that would mean getting rid of "social safety nets" and this society is too addicted to handouts to go for it.
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WW,
You're dead wrong about the Kennedys - they did not get their money from the mob - they WERE the mob.
On Bush, let's see:
1) The national debt is at over $8 trillion thanks in good part to his expansion of medicare and federal education programs and foreign aid (15 billion to fight AIDS in Africa and so on)
2) Several million well paying manufacturing/high tech jobs have left the country during Bush's term in office - yet he pushes further globalization with CAFTA. (and it was Bush's daddy who signed onto GATT and NAFTA - then, when Clinton was elected, it was congress republicans who helped to ratify these treaties).
3) It'll be 5 years since 911 in two months and Bin Laden is still at large - instead we've wasted close to $300 billion instituting Jeffersonian democracy in some sand pit in the middle east.
4) Millions of illegals pour over the borders while Bush campaigns in Spanish for economic opportunities for the down-trodden economic masses.
Great job? give me a break.
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This is off topic anymore, but the companies never complain when they charge american public based on american incomes, regardless where they make their products. Look at drug prices. US consumers pay at least 50% more than people on other countries mostly because the companies assume we can afford it. I'm not for price controls, but what I am for is fair trading practices where a company that wants to sell products in the US must either make that product in the US or compensate the US in the form of import tarrifs for underpaying their workers elsewhere in the world. I have no problem with American assembly workers making $50 an hour if it allows them to maintain a high standard of living, what's wrong with that? When assembly plants move north or south of the border or oversees, the majority of the Americans involved in the business (assembly workers, middle management) gets screwed and the top brass continue to collect their obscene pay packages. Bottom line is this: you want to sell it here - pay the wages here. And our good ol' buddy Bush and his papa have been sell out globalist free traders all their lives. The Bushes have been in the white house in presidential or vice-presidential capacity for 18 out of the last 26 years. For six of the Clinton years republicans were in control of congress. All these years later we have WTO, GATT, NAFTA and a host of other trade deals that completely gutted the US manufacturing capacity. And you expect me to hold the republican establishment blameless? All I'm saying here is, I've had enough of BS from the pubbies, we need a new party and we need it fast.
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WW,
I'm sure no economist, but I'll tell you this: the way you keep the dollar strong is you make products that can be bought with that dollar - what in the nookies are we making now a days except for rap videos? We should have maintained a strong manufacturing base, but we've lost it thanks to the globalists. This country grew most prosperous when trade tariffs protected domestic production between late 18th century and early 20th. Thats a FACT. Globalists like to threaten people with a Depression if protectionist policies are implemented. BS!!! We had the great depression because of an overheated market of the 20's, not because of protection tariffs.
The thing is, the original tariffs were instituted because US businesses wanted them, now the US businesses find it cheaper to produce oversees and the tariffs are gone. But it is the NATION as a whole that suffers when corporations off-shore production. When a man looses his well paying job and the pride that comes with it, it not only effect him but his family and his community. When millions of Americans loose meaningful jobs and are forced to take menial positions in the service industry, that has a degenerative impact on the morale of the entire Nation. We become a nation of loosers instead of a Nation of builders. And for what? So that a quarterly report can beat the forecast by a couple of pennies? Avarice has been the downfall of men and globalism is the ultimate, total and most corrupt expression of greed. Do you know where the number 666 in the relevations comes from? Read 1 Kings 10:13-15 in the scripture and you'll see what is the true nature of the antichrist.
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WW,
You're talking about fair competion where the only variable is quality. If the competition is fair, I'll buy a better product no matter where it's made. That's why I drive a Toyota disguised as a Chevy Prism. The average quality of a japanese vehicle is simply better than that of a comparable american made car. And there is no arguement that better quality in the japanese products has had a positive effect on the quality of American products.
But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about Nike building a factory in Indonesia and making sneakers there while paying 50 cents an hour and avoiding costs associated with occupational safety and environmental protections. Then they turn around and sell that pair of sneakers in the US for $125, while it might have cost them $5 to make that pair.
I'm talking about American workers getting screwed out of their incomes because the transnationals can make a better profit making their products oversees.
Do they have the right to do with their businesses as they please? Sure!
Do we collectively, as Americans, have a right to protect our common prosperity by punishing imports and encouraging domestic production? You bet!
Would I treat European or Japanese imports same as I would treat Chinese imports? Hell no! Because Europe and Japan do not compete with us on the basis of undercutting wages, like the Chinese do, but rather on the basis of producing better quality manufacture.
That's what I mean by replacing the "free trade" with Fair Trade.
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WW,
I agree that work ethic is an issue for some although if you took a look around the rest of the civilized countries, you'd see that american workers are still some of the most hardworking in the world.
You're saying that our problems stem mainly from poor quality of our products. That's where I have a hard time communicating my idea. I'll try it again.
I. A consumer will make his choice based mainly on two factors
A. Price of the product
B. Quality of the product
If
A1 = price of product made in the US
B1 = quality of the product made in the US
A2 = price of foreign product
B2 = quality of foreign product
Then the consumer decision equation will nearly ALWAYS be as follows:
B1 - A1 < B2 - A2
if A2 is a negligible number, and it WILL be if your labor and regulatory costs are 10% of what they are in the US.
So much for your competition. Now if you want to pull the equation towards the American side, you have to cut costs and that means cutting wages and you CAN do that, but I DON'T WANT to do that, I want to maintain my standard of living above that of some bushman in Namibia. My predecessors and I earned that standard of living through many generations of hard work and education whereas those Bushmen spent their days since time immemorial picking their noses.
As to loosing foreign markets due to potential boycots, what foreign markets are you talking about? The China market, where we have a $60 billion / month trade deficit? The Mexico market where we are now running a deficit whereas before NAFTA we had a surplus? We have NO MARKETS to loose EXCEPT our own AMERICAN market - which is still be biggest market in the world. If we close our market to cheap imports, where else will chinese sell their junk? Who else will want it / have the money for it? If our markets are closed to cheap imports, there's still going to be a demand for A LOT of consumer products here in the US and people will come back to make those products here.
Re: individual sales over the web - will never replace bulk sales simply because payment for shipping an individual item will never be nearly as low as shipping items in bulk.
And besides, there are simple ways to tax Internet oversees purchases.
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WW,
You won't get an argument from me about unions. There's a union in the company I work for and I know exactly what you're talking about. The inmates are running the asylum.
Unionization is ultimately a form of communism and to me the only good commie is a dead commie. At the same time, corporate greed, arrogance and malfeasance is also a big part of the problems faced by American businesses. Just read up on Bethlehem Steel.
But all that aside, low oversees wages and high regulatory costs are THE main factors what driving businesses out of the US and if we can institute policies that will protect us from this kind of job loss, we'd at least stop the hemmorage.
As far as exports, you're making my point for me. We're not a big exporter anyway, what have we got to loose if other people decide to boycot us? Besides, arms dealing is not exactly the most moral way to shore up your exports. That kind of makes you want there'd be more conflict in the world. I'd rather not make money off people killing each other.
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ww,
how is poor quality the reason for low oversees wages?
You make excellent points on the need make a quality product, but you do not adress at all the issue of wage disparity.
like I said, low oversees wages and high regulatory costs are THE main factors that are driving businesses out of the US
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WW,
Is that the same O'Reiley that paid a 6-figure settlement to make a sex harrassment lawsuit go away? c'mon, you want to be surrounded by the likes on him?
How about Limaugh, otherwise known as Oxicontin Rush, I don't think HE wants to be in your company, unless you can get him some pills w/o a prescription.
I think we take our talking heads too seriously in this country. Most of them are fast talkers with only average intelligence and an attitude that translates into good ratings.
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WW,
In the public eye, if you pay, that means you're guilty. O'Reiley can say all he wants that he just wanted the case to go away, but he has a responsibility to defend his good name and didn't defend it, he paid off the accuser.
My point was, a lot of the talking heads have questionable characters and to me that disqualifies them from the public spot-light that they enjoy. I just think public figures should be held to a higher standard than regular folks, we want the best to be our leaders, not the average.
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WW,
you listed the republican establishment figures next to those of the dems I simply said that I resent the republican counterparts only slightly less than I resent the dems. The whole system is a sharade designed to impersonate representative government. It has been perfected to maintain a small clique of families in power, while the vast majority of the american populace is totally convinced that they (common americans) have something to do with who runs the country. The beast of government is wiley and wickedly strong. It holds ALL reigns of power, including ALL media outlets. Independent voices are more often corrupted than silenced by force. You need to dig deep to see the sinister nature of the present power structure. Pay attention to who associates with whom, especially away from the cameras: the level of duplicity will never cease to amaze you. I'm not sure you'll take to what I'm saying. The bottom line is there are no good governments. They are parasitic entities designed by the wealth holders for the SOLE purpose of maintaining the stability of wealth generating institutions such as manufacture and trade. The weaker the government, the better the common man in an educated, religious society. Our government has grown beyond the point where we can reduce its strength by democratic means. We are not too far removed from a tyranical unified world government. At this point a wise man can only observe the events and see for himself the fulfillment of scriptural prophecies take place in his own life time.
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